A Germ of an Idea

[Zebulon]

*(tries to pick nose but realises his finger is missing...)* Not a problem.....and I have an idea...(tell you more later)  ;)

[Blazin_uk]

Mna this sounds like a well good idea!!!

=P~  ;)

[Zebulon]

Ok - added to the ten instructions on the list is this:

We do not enter into alliances. However, just as we also have the proviso for showing mercy when it suits there is one way to ensure that KOBK will at least consider a cease fire / neutrality with you. Now here comes the good bit......

If you require us to NOT assault your clan members - or as an individual you would wish us to leave you temporarily in peace then you can do one thing and one thing alone that will placate us:

Pay Tribute. We require - once every calander month a payment of 500K PER PLAYER in your clan in order for us to leave you alone. Requests for this will be sent to a thread in the KOBK clan forum and will be responded to by me or my 2nd in command only. Failure to pay - and I will require payment on the 1st of every month with a three day window for payment - will result in resumed hostilities.

You pay this for however long you wish. Or you dont pay it - your choice. The mercy option will still be available to individual players. This option is only available if you are outnumbered by us and you are not prepared to go for the 5 in a row max killing option.
Asking for mercy during a pitch battle with lots of players involved will be ignored.

Tribute is not like tax - it does not guarantee your safety. It is not protection money. It is extortion. Should the clan leader decide to turn hostile against you at any moments notice - you will not receive a refund. You have to live in the hope that you do not come across hostile KOBK even after you have paid tribute.

There will be a monthly list of tribute payers that all KOBK clan members will be obliged to read.

We will log every request for mecry and every payment of tribute on our Voidserver Clan Forum. This will indicate how much we are feared. Fluctuations in the figures will indicate the rise and fall of courage throughout Sirius space.

Be assured - We Will Not Stop - We Will Remain Silent - We Will Assail You - You Will Fear Our Presence. (and we will iritate you to the limit of fury - all within the rules of course!)

Once the clan is established - this will all be laid out clearly on the voidserver Clan Forum.

Clear so far? ........  :-?  :D  ;)

[DIGGER]

looks to me like only a VOID would get away with makin this sort of clan every move u make will be watch by em just hope u can keep your cool when it gets tough out there :-w

[Watchwolf]

Seriously, I actually thought of that... have it in writing if you don't believe it... and what I came up with was this, plain simple and blunt:

This is the kind of clan anyone could make and I think has been tried before. This is the kind of RP that can and will spark action and RP. When it was done before that's exactly what happened and that's what people say they miss. Thing is, it has great potential to be abused and get way out of hand.

With that in mind I think it's a good bet that if there are one or two VOID's involved, and maybe even in charge, there's a high trust by the powers who make decisions that it won't be abused. So they're willing to let it go and see how it goes. But you can bet it'll be watched.

One other thing, IMO... with it being well-organized and all that there's no room for complainers. There will not be abusive killing and there will not be under-rank killing and there will not be abusing provocative chat. The whiners will have to buck up and deal with it. If this works like I am sure it will, it's RP and tough tidbits if you get hammered. Period.

So does this mean you're signing up?

[DIGGER]

if u mean me signin up id be out in a day with a void in charge tellin i can and cant do this i mean i stick within the rules but in green and ts i am terrible so not for me this time

[URAMI]

[quote="Zebulon";p="149956"]Ok so far I have URAMI and Carnival - that makes two.....Keep it coming chaps  :D [/quote]

I'm not joining a clan right now.  For the time being I enjoy flying alone.  I have too many things going on in RL atm that I can not give any dedication to a clan who's members will have expectations of me and rely on me to be there.  I'm a full-time 18 credit hour college student, full-time job, and a family man.

[Zebulon]

@ URAMI  :D Oh well it was worth a try...... mate if you feel like it you know who to call..... Good luck with the college, all the best with the family and thanks for the input to this - its important.

@ DIGGER:  I understand your scepticism mate - thats why I have introduced the idea through the thread. Its like the Wolf says - you can bet your back end the powers that be will be watching, cos every time so far it appears to have gone badly "pear shaped".  What I am asking of players is a lot.  Its tough. Its a challenge. When someone gets all picky and grouchy cos you shot his tail off and you in your fancy schmancy fighter and he was in his egg box of a trader, its difficult not to want to answer back  - PROVIDING you dont give him a sizeable piece of your mind and then chase the guy till the whiner docks and then shoot his head off every time he pokes it out the rabbit hole (thats more than five times of course!)  - then there is no reason for you to be critisised or even banned.  If you come on and decide this is a "Oh I wish DTA were back" platform and start messing about and NOT following the Clan Instructions  then you have answered your own question - You will be gone faster than a Foot and Mouth Cow in a Government Clean Up!

I am asking people to take on this role and then get it in the neck from other players. Believe me if we can get it so that WE dont retaliate and the others get all up in our faces and start breaking the rules then I am certain that providing we keep our cool you will see those offenders fall like flies off a dead cow.

Its why I introduced the ideas of "mercy" and "tribute" - it gives you a way out of potential flames and flash points and it makes the rest of the players at least believe there is a chance of survival and hope. The granting of Mercy is entirely up to the Clan Member - you dont have to - you can go for the 5 kills max. - If he wants to tangle with you and chooses not to run (and you have to give him that opportunity or this is another fatal circular argument) then you are at liberty to kill him as often as he comes at you - just like in a Free For All or a Battle. If he turns and says to ADMINS and VOID with screen shots of six or seven kills, providing you can convince me that you gave him a way out  - either by leaving him alone or  giving mercy (and he refuses either option) then thats his look out. It gives us a way to be ruthless without gate sitting or dock sitting.  The responsibility in a situation like that is down to you. You did him five times. You didnt answer his "cat calls". You moved away from the fight and let him be. Let them get all prissy and fretfull about it. Just as long as you have played within the Clan Rules and the Server Rules there wont be a problem.

In the end of course, and trying not to be pessemistic about this, if the ADMINS say "Stop - Enough" then thats what happens - no argument, no flaming - if its a big problem for you address it to me - If I cant get anywhere with it then we drop the subject  and move on - plain and simple. I don' t know about you but I am here to have fun and in such a way that  whilst being "hated" by every one on the server I don't end up with a bad temper and a headache  - cos to quote Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon...."I'm to old for this s**t!"

Good PvP and a high rate of kills and being the most MERCILESS GANG that walked the Void since the other lot doesnt mean you have to be STOOPID about it. It will take a great deal of effort and patience and restraint - but ultimately it can be a great deal of fun for us and for those poor and helpless victims and some of the not so poor and helpless victims. It relies on your common sense and a reajustment in your approach to the killing of many without talking back. If ECLIPSE can do it, then the challenge they present is to do it BETTER...!

Are you still game or are you just going to be a Mr "It Will Never Work"?....

[Zebulon]

Ok - Enough talk! If this is going to happen I'm going to need some members for this adventure.

If I get the required number and above I will work on an intro that lays out pretty much what has been listed and we will then start the RP.  So First things First - for those of you interested in taking this further - please raise your hands......ok then, please send a reply to this post stating that you are prepared to commit to this.

Thanks - Zeb

[Carnival]

Im in.

[Zebulon]

Well, thats one so far.....I'll bump this and start a new thread: called KOBK - its just the working title..  

[ASSASSINS]

Nice 1 zeb but i dont know why to me sound like a R tag clan
and YO Watchwolf M8, ... ASSASSINS still remain good guy ..just ppl whu cant kill a player(s) hire us in other case we dont bother no1 until we have a contract on his head or atac us
Regards

[BLOODY]

yeah more work for [H]

[Zebulon]

@Bloody - always glad to keep you occupied - keeps you off every one else  ;)

@Assassins - I love the advertisment! You can tout for business on our back anytime you want...We will try to keep you occupied cos I guess things have been a little quiet of late..!

@DIGGER: Mate, just as long as you can hold your tongue - well ok - your typing finger and not rise to the foolishness of others then you are more than welcome to join in - as and when you decide or whenever it suits you.

I'm not bothered about frags - I am bothered about chaos. This is about getting stuck into the game - I poked a few with my stick in Sparta today and got whacked for it - but I kept coming back for more...So Kudos to the player called Spartan - I swear I couldnt even get a bead on the guy  - if it was boxing it was boxing at its best - In eight encounters I never touched him once - even when up against the better players here, including the likes of ESF's  Red_Dragon I can normaly get at least one hit and get their sheilds down - its the follow up that I realy sux at!  Fighting Bloody is always a challenge (well for me at any rate) and the NS chaps reacted well to being shot at without invitation....It bodes well for the future of PvP on the Void.  Its a game and sometimes we need not to take it so seriously - that doesnt mean you cant be passionate about something and it doesnt mean you can play outside the rules.

I still have much to learn and as always, keen to be taught a lesson.....

[IA-CORTANA]

thats a good idea maybe i will join it  :)