Rogue & Pirate clans

[Hash]

Hi guys!,  Just a simple question that I need to be sure.

1.- Do rogue clans need an [R] tag in player's or in clan's name?
1.- Do pirate clans need an [X] tag in player's or in clan's name?

[Mrtvacina]

Rogues clan is against the rule:


• Rogues

All rogues will be tagged [R]
Rogues may not be in a clan and may not tax
Rogues by their nature and activity should be deemed KOS (kill on sight) by other players.

[Hash]

Well, what do you understand for "Rogue"??

Somethink like this?:

[Description]
We take no prisoners
No Questions
No Answers
No Quarter
We have blood on our hands
We like it that way

[Diplomacy]
EVERYONE

If it moves, we kill it.
If it doesn't move, we kill it anyway.

[Clan Rules]
7. Be Merciless
8. Tribute. Clans that wish to be left alone can pay the sum of 500K per clan member per callendar month
13. Attitude. We are taking an aggresive stance
17. Kill or Be Killed
etc.

This is a Rogues clan, dude

[rene]

it is simply forbiden in this server to have rogue clans m8
take the case of DTA, once they spread chaos now they left coz rogue clans are not allowed in this server any more

on the other hand pirate clans are welcome
hope that clarifies it

[Hash]

No Rene, no clarify. That was taken from Reavers diplomacy.

It's a clan, they are rogues and they are active.

I've just took a right exemple from BBD, they're a pirate clan and they show it properly (I think):

Tag Formation
[BBD]-Name-[X]

[Kahless_uk]

No Rogue Clans

end of discussion

[Burn]

Red Dragon and rene are righ :Rogues may not be in a clan and may not tax
You could try a Nomad-clan RP like the [Eclipse] or a Mercenary RP if u want 500k for protection.

take the case of DTA, once they spread chaos  now they left

Actually most of them are back and still spreading chaos (not as a clan that is)

[Hash]

Can somebody answer me what kind of clan is REAVERS??

[Zebulon]

-=REAVERS=-  are a clan.  We are not Rogues.  Why? Because Rogues can't have a clan and have to wear R tags and operate as individuals.  There are a couple of things that make it very clear that -=REAVERS=- are not Rogues and they are:

1. MERCY - Should a player who is under attack from -=REAVERS=- beg for mercy,  the attacking player can decide whether or not the plea for mercy is genuine and stop the attack.  A SS of the mercy request will be taken and the victims name will be entered onto our list of those that requested Mercy.  (Rogues dont do that - they kill - end of story)

2. TRIBUTE - Should a player decide that they do not wish to be attacked by -=REAVERS=- on a more permanent basis then the payment of TRIBUTE is required. This goes the same for clans.  Via PM to the clan leader (that would be me) to discuss the terms and the amount of TRIBUTE to be paid. We do this because we are not pirates and cannot ask for tax. (Rogues dont do that - they kill - end of story)

That is the only difference.  For sure, our RP sails a very tight line down the windward side of being Rogues.  This was a deliberate move due to the feeling that was prevelant on the Void at the time I decided to give the -=REAVERS=- a shot at a very difficult RP.

We have been called out and a called many things.  More often than not we have proved our critics wrong. You can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time...! ( and its pointless even trying)

For the most part we have remaind SILENT as our rules require with the occasional lapse when the gangbanging and the stupidity of certain individuals who shouldn't be let near their dad's calculator let alone a PC or the internet gets a bit much.  Thankfully this doesnt last and faced with "no comment" & silence, the abusers tend to give up.   I know what gets said outside of here and I know what gets said on here when y'all think Im not around - word travels fast round here.  

We took our cue from the way that Eclipse operate and also from the much maligned (and banned) DTA.  I thought to myself , "What would it take to bring back the good stuff that DTA brought to the server without crossing the line?  What would I have to do to make a tough RP work within the Server Rules?"  Thats how the -=REAVERS=- came into being.

Comments such as "DTA wannabes" and "Low quality copies of the DTA" are a couple of the minor things that get thrown around in  open conversations between players.  Whilst things have been quiet we are not going away. So you might as well get used to it.   Oddly enough we have made a few friends amongst those who were initialy opposed to the idea of -=REAVERS=-.  Sadly they have to remain anonymous because of the "earbashing" they will get from their mates.  In the end its a game - so suck it up and play....!

All the best to y'all - see you out there sometime......Cheers  -  Zeb  :D

[Hash]

Thanks Zeb. and all of you guys.
I know you have a difficult RP (we have many problems with our X wing too)
But,
yes, you're a clan of rogues
yes, you kill people without questions
yes, you try to tax people (call it tribute or whatever you want, I can't see the diff. between tax credits and tribute credits, they look very similar )

This is just to clarify. I have nothing against rogues or pirates, they're all voidians like me, and we all love Freelancer. I think Void needs rogue's clans. But many people get annoyed of your acts.

Anyway, nobody will change nothing after this post. Cya all in space!!  :)

[-=tercio=-coyote]

Los ESF actuan como "ROGUES"   por ejemplo  y no lleban el tac  (  R )  asi que poner los rogue en clanes  seria caotico mejor que cada uno haga  sus chars rogue independientes de los clanes  los "REAVERS"  no son rogues los ESF  para mi si lo son    =))  8-X  <:-P

[Burn]

Los ESF son mercenarios amigo  <):)  
Xenon wrote

im the leader of the biggest MERCENARY CLAN on void

[geromix]

Well looks like the discussion is pretty much over or there was none ,u can kind of say Reavers are somewhere between rogues and pirates.

[Babieca]

Hash, think about some evil clans We have Demons, Cyborgs, Shadows, REAVERS. They are clans, and yes they act like Rogues sometimes, but they are not because some of them have diplomacy, others have mercy, they fight together ......

I remember that when Ent launched the idea of Rogue, he was thinking about a single player, the scum of syrius. And the RP was accepted for a single player. Dont look only for RP, look for the differences between a clan and a single player.

RP of clans killing everybody except their partners are normal. They are called evil clans.

RP of a player without allies, KOS for everybody, is a rogue.

It is normal to be confused, the mistake is that some ppl see only the RP, but dont see the real definition of Rogue "player acting alone". Maybe it should be added to the RP in rules

[-=tercio=-coyote]

Los  ESF seran mercenarios para ti amigo para mi son ROGUES  de echo no respetan nada