We miss frags...

[Ryus]

[quote="shonensan";p="202374"]Rampage, runs amok and godlike...that's all i want, not frags that will be resetted after a week.

Pimms[/quote]

Now this I could get behind.

[-Wolfie-]

the problem with frags is the "bad" pvpers did everything to get them up

actually some ppl started to make it a must having kills higher than deaths, people used to "HEY I GOT 2K KILLS AND 100 DEATHS! NOOBS!!!!!"


thats why they were removed and shouldn't come back imo

kill messages like godlike isn't a problem, but changing them to something else would be better just to make this server "unique"

[DarkPand0r]

The problem with frags was that normal players used every kind of trick to maximize kills and reduce deaths, like cratering and killing lowbies (and CHEAT).
And then that poor behaviour infected pvpers too...because after seeing players that dive every time you're about to kill them you ask yourself why do i have to let that diver kill me...

Completely agree'd, you'd be surprised who used to do it all the time

I didn't attacked specific players, i didn't use names or clans...so don't start attacking me like noobs pls. This is what i think. If you recognize yourself in what i said and it hurts you well it's your problem.

[Skeleton]

Well, Void is pvp server, isn't it? If you think it's not, take look at people. No more [X] players(of course few are left), no more [R](also few are left) etc.

Year ago we had 10 [X] players versus navy almost every week, or 1 night 16 [R] against everyone. Then we were RP/PvP server, but now my friends, we got only clans in majority, which makes us PvP.

Now when that is clear, yea, there was crushing into planets, but barely I saw anyone do it while in fight. Maybe after he kills opponents, yes, but in middle of pvp, no(as for me).


Frags are simply part of PvP server, it's kinda stupid without them. I don't care for someone saying: "look at my frags, they are way better then yours", fine, u ask him to pvp and if he beats you, you simply mute him or something like that if you don't feel ok for listening to him...

Get the point, frags are simply part of PvP server, as I don't know what else to say...

[Maverick]

Agreed with Shonen here. Frags will mostly make players use dirty tricks to get their kills up and with them, their ego's. And nothing good has ever come from over-inflated ego's.

Saying that frags belong to a PvP server doesn't make much sense to me, since the old 'godlike' messages could do just as well. Without the problem of having over-inflated ego's messing up the fun. As Shonen said it might even make people work harder to stay alive in a fight longer and get more kills before they die. I know I would try that.

I say get the messages back and keep the frags far away from here.

[-Wolfie-]

i agree with shonen, and dont exclude the fact that the frags were often brought up in flamewars

EDIT: and more accusations of cheating cause of high kill and low death

[Zaphod]

no need for frags, they are senseless, after they came up some time ago, complaints increased. Many, who were interested, got tricky and these who were not interested faced unfair behavior.

have fun
Z

[Retribution]

Hated frags - they depict no skill at all. Kill a man - dive get new ship more ammo kill the next - not an accurate reading of a mans skill at all.

However............

Getting a god like - which is 20 kills, no dock, no death is a measure of a mans skill. No ammo reload no regening no docking or it wipes u back to the start is more than a measure of a mans pvp abilities.

But personnaly id like to see some sort of tracking on kills, say a person kills 50 people with only missiles it should say {Name} - is voids new spam king.

^ ^

j/k

[Kosmiker]

godlike messages > frag stats

[Live-Evil]

I agree that the /frags was a cause of many problems, Kosmiker gave me an Idea. Would it be possible to have a message pop up if you get a certian amount of kills without dieing.
Ex: you get 5 pvp kills in a row it could say "[Your name here] is on a killing spree"

[mightybean]

Serpentine, that what these "messages" we are talking about are! You just described them

[-Wolfie-]

it was back in the days void used FLHook though, making such a "plugin" for FLAC needs coding..

[Kosmiker]

Now serpentine gave me an idea!

Instead of having frag stats why not having just a simple information of your current rank, like, if you have managed to kill 10 in a row then your current rank is "amok" and it will remain that way until you manage to kill 20 and then the rank changes to godlike or something.

Basically it would start like this:

/Frags

>You're currently "fish for the shark"

After this I managed to kill 3 in a row;

/frags

>You're currently "on rampage"

I went and killed another 3 in a row;

/frags

>You're currently "on rampage"

As you can see the ranks is still the same.
After this I pushed the limits of my skills and managed to kill 10 in a row; (yeah right, in my dreams)

/Frags

>You're currently "godlike"

Now I would have a great rank and it would take 20 in a row to reach next rank; decided to start overkilling or shooting some newbies.

/Frags

>You're currently "being watched by an admin!"

Now that is a rank! lol
(This is just to illustrate that even this idea has flaws as long as players abuse from it)


Another possible command idea:

/frags# 32

>Player #32 is currently "fish for the shark"

This last command would be a good way to know if some player is or is not out of your league.



You can as well all just forget this and play the game as it is, because it's all up to the players

[anoyingnomad]

BUMP For Kosmiker. I like that idea