[X] and [R] RP Wake-up call

[Maverick]

We all know that the RP part of Void has seen better days. The number of Pirates and Rogues has greatly diminished over time.
There have been enough threads about this. Lots of people have acknowledged that the loss of RP can leave a great 'Void' on this server. Though I have not seen any (or not many) Pirates or Rogues (re)appear.
If we continue down this road, RP might very well be close to extinction, and who knows this server will only be a shooting server.

The lack of pirates and rogues also reflects back to new players. There are days that Sparta is overly crowded with pvp fighters, when the rest of Void space seems awfully quiet.
I think that we should give it another effort to bring back life to the X and R RP. Luckily, there are more of you who feel the same. Take Blackheart-X-, about whom I personally think he has quite some time clocked in here. His approach is an admirable one.

When I started to play on Void, I was drawn to the pirate RP. My first char was BLACK_SCORPION_[X]. With thanks to my good friend BLACK_LEGEND_[X], I might add here.
In the light of the above, I have decided to revive my first char. I slightly changed the name into [X]BLACK-SCORPION[X].

In addition to that, I also made a Rogue char, called [R]TERROR[R]

After Strail's 'Kids and Teens' thread about our general attitude, it has improved quite a bit if you ask me.
I think we should now concentrate on the RP issue.
This is my attempt to help revive the RP here a bit. But it will also give me some relief of the clan RP from time to time. Both the [X] and the [R] careers are solo ones, and I figured that flying solo every once and awhile would be nice too.
Because of the fact I am pretty busy with the clan, I have decided to not start from scratch with either one. I have sufficient funds to create both, so I'll utilize those.

I have never had a rogue char before, but I will try and do my best to play both RP's in their best spirit.  

I hope this will encourage more players to do the same. Imagine Void crowded with pirates and rogues, making trading an extremely dangerous job to do. This will in turn drive the better traders to find new routes, and therefor help the trader RP also. It might even create more of a group vibe between traders, as they start sharing saver trade routes with eachother. It might also help encouraging new players to start a [T] char.

It would be SO much fun, don't you all agree guys?

Please use this thread to share your thoughts about the RP issue, and maybe even to post new ideas or initiatives.

Kill ya in space all,

[X]BLACK-SCORPION[X]
[R]TERROR[R]

P.S.: Sadly I have torched my graphics card, so my computer is currently running on its standard built-in back up card. You can imagine how Void looks like for me now. I have ordered a new one, but I won't have it until next Tuesday or Wednesday. Until that time you won't see much of me in space.

[Blazin_uk]

Well i like to say fair play and goodluck!
I believe we have enough Rogues flying around really, its the pirate RP that needs lifting back to its formal glory, I/we have seen this happen too many times to even care, (not trying to sound harsh) Pirate RP is alot harder then Rogue RP trust me i done them both
Pirate RP is a 2 way system, u need the traders to interact with the pirates and the vice verser, if the traders dont pay then you might aswell act Rogue and kill them lol. I know this has been asked before but i will ask, cant we have the taxing priced up more? my opinion, its the tax that makes the trader laugh in the pirates, and thats why we had the sudden emerge of Rogues and less pirates, and most of these traders are clan members who have over 200million and so forth, but they still refuse to pay when they are in their trader/not a clan tagged trader!

So really we need the clan members/freelancers who are using traders to pay up, and pirates to stop acting like rogues.

[Cika_velja]

I can say to you only one thing,the less x and r, more beautiful life is !!!! All of you are kill on site by my book !!!

And one more thing, traitors are also kill on site !!!

[kill-phil]

We just dropped the X tag from our clan name, because pirating is dead, to make pirating worthwhile we need to get rid of the 200kl limit.

Also the number of traders operating at the moment is insufficient to make it a worthwhile occupation, we need more traders first.

It got to a point where pirates were taxing other pirates (farcical), pirates should only tax traders and only kill as a last resort when the trader refuses to pay. The pirate should offer something in return for payment, protection from Rogues and other pirates.

The traders should accept that paying tax is the best way to play the game and every player interaction does not have to end in a death.

[Black_Legion]Hood

[Blazin_uk]

Well if its more beautiful without X's and R's, then whats the point of havin navy/order clans and so on lol

[Greaver]

[quote="Blazin_uk";p="168702"]Well if its more beautiful without X's and R's, then whats the point of havin navy/order clans and so on lol[/quote]

Yeah, right on the money. Without roguesd and pirates on the Server 4S wouldnt have come to be. Or maybe they would have seen a lack of pirates and rogues and tried it themselves.

But taxing either a trader or a pirate is just useless. I have only had tax from Pr0jecty! hes awsome ( and he was on his fighter )

But freelancers dont get the idea that they need to acknowledge when they should pay tax. I cant be bothered to fly to a system. ask for tax and then get abuse hurled at me, in text and Alt + F4 etc. Just a waste of my time.

But dont get me wrong pirates are just as bad! Pirates that wont even ask for tax before shooting. Sure they can use the excuse that they are not getting payed. but when it comes down to it, they need to stop asking like rogues and start asking for tax. maybe say they get 24 hour access to the trader unharmed. And now that they are under the protection ( For example ) of BBD, so any other pirate that tax's there will be blown to peices.

So we just need some real input, admins and people alike to tell us what is gunna happen? Can we put RP back? CAn we make harder rules?

I know this post will go unread like many of my others, but what the heck, for those people who do i hope you see sense in it.

Greaver.

[Blackheart-X-]

Mav, I totally agree with everything you have said here.

I know this isnt a 100% rp server , but the amount of people who sit in Sparta is becoming a joke.  They wear tags but only fight each other around the rock, it really is laughable.
Guys you might aswell just drop the rp tags, because like it or not this is the truth.............you aint doing any rp!!!  Pvping each other now and again isnt rp, no matter how much you kid yourselves on.

The other night when I was setting my char up there were 4 or 5 Raptors clan members who were patrolling through some systems.  When I noticed we were in the same system as me, it made me watch my back in case we ran into each other.  Now that is how rp should be.  There were 5 traders online too and I had to try and figure out where they were going and how I could cut them off.

Blazin m8t, I hear what you are saying but we all have to make an effort to make rp work here.  Traders need to trade and rp with pirates, navy/police need to patrol "pirate hotspots", pirates need to act like pirates.  When you think about it, it really aint all that complicated.

How about a couple of days a week (one midweek and one at the weekend) where rp is compulsory.  No sitting at the rock chatting each other up.  Actually getting up off your lazy arses and patrolling Sirius.(not aimed at anybody).

Oh and BTW Mav, lets just say I have a little experience of life here on the void lol.

[NuclearWinter]

Something new? #-o

[LIMAN]

Yes we do need more evil on VOID.

Good luck with R and X chars and have fun.

[Maverick]

[quote="NuclearWinter";p="168709"]Something new? #-o[/quote]

There is nothing new about decent RP. 'Renewal' would be more appropriate. Maybe you can enlighten us with one of your ideas.  ;)

[anoyingnomad]

there would be more [X] if traders just pay the tax, but they wont because:
1)they dont care if they loose their cargo since its not worth more then 300k(ussually)
2) if they dont pay, then the pirate leaves
3) if they get killed its just 2 minute flying to get their cargo back and just get the lost money back after they got their profit
and so on

so, in my opinion we could get some pirate RP back is:
1) bigger cargo hulls,perhaps make the transport for sale. so its better to pay 200k then ratherly loose 1m worth of cargo.
2) just shoot the trader again,again, and again. and even again!
3) make trade routes longer.

and the point of getting the max tax up is not worth it. then i wouldn't pay it myself either.since with these AT's ur cargo cant be worth more then 400k. so just untroduce new ships! transports or trains perhaps, so traders just pay instead!

bigger cargo hulls will also improve the [R] RP since its more fun killing a bigger ship then a small AT, in my opinion.
and then traders will really need to look for more trade routes in the border worlds.

as i mentioned before trade routes need to be longer, no more 2 minute flying. that takes the danger away lol.
many people wont like it but perhaps remove alex gates again,since their not used really except the NY and sparta ones.

a suggestion for trade routes:
in the house systems, from colorado to texas or something,or hamburg to leeds, then these systems will be used more also, so their not a waste of space anymore:P

[Maverick]

Erm, it is possible to carry a load worth of 1.5 mill inside your AT Nomad. Have a good luck. It's not that far away.

I agree with all of your points, however there is missing one very important one:

This is RP. RP stands for ROLE PLAY. This means you play a role. the role of the trader and that of the Pirate. Someone made an excellent point lately. If this were RL, (and that´s what RP is all about right) and you were a trader, would you really have the nerve to run from a pirate and face curtain death? I mean c'mon, ppl who do this don't get the essence of RP.
In general they should get more 'into' it and play it like it was RL.

MAV

[eagleone]

you all need to read some old thread. this is a subject that has been beet like a red head step child on this server. every 6 months we here we need more rp. now a few of you have been here long enough to know that the server goes thru cycles. there was a time last year there were only like 3 navy clans left, the hole server was over run with rogues and pirates then the same post was made but that time it was we need more navy.

one thing you can count on is the void is always changing, so when some come on and say things like something new, they are refering to the fact that this is not new, but it is part of the normal life of the server. you watch 4 to 6 months from now there will be a real lack of navy again.

if you all realy want to bring back role play trying doing at the clan level. we never had rogues before 2112 mod yet we had just as much pvp'ing back then. with a lot less huff about it. we had clan wars and your rep with other clans was important. also at a clan level most dont get so bent out of shape, you set a weekend or a day aside and your 2 clans have at it. we could do this and after 2 or 3 hours we would stop take a break and laugh about who got owned. but now we have rogues that fly around shooting everyone making thing to personal, we see constant cripping about this char and that guy. we see personal vendetas being created this is not good for the void. we need to get back to pvp'ing being about the fun not the frag, this would also cut down on the amount of lossers who try to cheat.

see i dont think it is role play to shoot everyone you see, someone afk blow them up, someone talking to anouther player blow them up. someone lev 25 easy kill blow them up. a trade shipwith no way to protect itself blow it up, that is not role play that is called being a jerk, and tbh we dont need that on the void, never had it before and the void was number 1, now we do and we are no longer number 1. somthing to think about.

[Maverick]

@Eagle:
You might be right about the server going through cycles. I have not been here long enough to notice that.

Though I get the vibe from your reply that you have seen better RP. So if you don't mind, I'll continue with my X char. It's an attractive career nevertheless.