Stop Complaining and Play the Game?

[[BLK_LGN][X]Zeus]

Eh, balls to it.

[[BLK_LGN][X]Zeus]

Eh, balls to it.

[RAZOR[X]]

100% agreed with zeus.

[[BLK_LGN][X]Zeus]

Look. Look what a few bad apples cause. They start people biting each other that don't have much reason to bite for. I've had enough, and when someone posts like that it makes things explode. Talking about above posts.

The idiots on the server are to blame for this, it's just a select few that makes everyone else fight. Why do they get ignored time and time again?

Come on, it's time to change that.

A past-the-moment Zeus.

[TheLaughingMan]

Beware with the "sweet before you then snake from behind" type of peoples all around the server^^
Im tired of watching what kind of aliances you made against us.
n*o and 4S against us
syndicates supporting whatever against us
marauders shadows syndicates working together at the other day.
why?
because our clan is the most organised?
Full with great friends you can count on every time?
Or because we know the meaning of order, collaboration?
I WAS always on easy against my friends in enemy clans so sorry. It is the past.
Those 3-4 friend remain on the server in hostile clans are always great opponents. Im glad to meet you guys.
...and i will help my friends in other clans if im alone. Complaining about this is nonsense since you creating even group with mixed RPs against us.

RP is more than a nice lyrics on the voidforum. You should always remember of that.

[BLAHA]

its a shame

[Strail]

I dont understand all these posts in this thread, as the post you originally refer to is about Edam complaining about being killed, I locked the thread after saying stop complaining and play.

I have exchanged PM's with Edam about it and i was harsh in what I said on the post and for that I apologise publicly.

That said, there are too many people who rush to the forums or a pm to complain about things that can be sorted out easily and it really needs to stop. I had only read some of the posts on the htread as i had some other complaining pms to deal with and I made my conclusion somewhat prematurley.

[Shadows-Neuromancer]

Not complaining or anything like that  :D

..But, I was there and I wasn't grouped vs Black-Legion. Yes I fired upon them as much as I did all others in the system as I was there to feed upon the carnage of the battle. The only group I did not fire upon was Syn. cause of and old Alliance of sorts from way back when they formed (Robots have no souls for us SHADOWS to feast upon), But I asure you all the rest are treated the same .. "FOOD"  =P~


-[SHADOWS]-Rele/\/tLeSS
~[SHADOWS]~S//\//\//\R~
-[SHADOWS]-H/\R\/ESTER

-=(\/)/\RDUK=-

P.S. ...good to be back  =D>

[TheLaughingMan]

my advise:
beware with syndicate allies ;p

[Cursed_One]

[quote="TheLaughingMan";p="228378"]Beware with the "sweet before you then snake from behind" type of peoples all around the server^^
Im tired of watching what kind of aliances you made against us.
n*o and 4S against us
syndicates supporting whatever against us
marauders shadows syndicates working together at the other day.
why?
because our clan is the most organised?
Full with great friends you can count on every time?
Or because we know the meaning of order, collaboration?
I WAS always on easy against my friends in enemy clans so sorry. It is the past.
Those 3-4 friend remain on the server in hostile clans are always great opponents. Im glad to meet you guys.
...and i will help my friends in other clans if im alone. Complaining about this is nonsense since you creating even group with mixed RPs against us.

RP is more than a nice lyrics on the voidforum. You should always remember of that.[/quote]

I love the hypocrisy in this.
BL says they are a chaos clan, allied to none enemies to all. yet you help other clans, friend or not?
same point, you are alliend to none enemies to all, yet you complain about everyone being against you?  If 2 enemy clans (i.e 4s and N'O) is fighting eachother, you appear and then they start fighting you, its because you are the mutual enemy. ever heard of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" ?


[quote="[BLK_LGN][X]Zeus";p="228377"]
Look. Look what a few bad apples cause. They start people biting each other that don't have much reason to bite for. I've had enough, and when someone posts like that it makes things explode. Talking about above posts.

The idiots on the server are to blame for this, it's just a select few that makes everyone else fight. Why do they get ignored time and time again?

Come on, it's time to change that.

A past-the-moment Zeus.
[/quote]

Yet, you posts exactly the same god damn crap. Things you could solve in PM or even system/green chat with others, you insist on bringing to forums to complain. who caused this btw? atm, you. because you decided to open this thread instead of handling it in a civilized manner with those involved. If the others dont want to handle it/be civilized, then just IGNORE THEM. face it zeus, most of the time you are not any better then those you call "idiots". in fact, you are worse.

[[BLK_LGN][X]Zeus]

[quote="Cursed_One";p="228394"]enemy clans (i.e 4s and N'O) is fighting eachother, you appear and then they start fighting you, its because you are the mutual enemy. ever heard of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" ?[/quote]

It's because they're NOT FIGHTING EACH OTHER. Jesus, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't bother!

[quote="Cursed_One";p="228394"]Yet, you posts exactly the same god darn crap. Things you could solve in PM or even system/green chat with others, you insist on bringing to forums to complain. who caused this btw? atm, you. because you decided to open this thread instead of handling it in a civilized manner with those involved. If the others dont want to handle it/be civilized, then just IGNORE THEM. face it zeus, most of the time you are not any better then those you call "idiots". in fact, you are worse.[/quote]

The whole "PM it, ignore it" blah blah speech is just boring. PM what to who, exactly? Handle what with who? You think anyone will listen when they're systematically trying to force you off the server!?

Go on, tell me how to right what is wrong, I'm all ears!

[BLAHA]

lol curse its one point to be ingame hostile to all, or if the clans stop to play RP  to form a group....the enemy of my enemy is my friend doesnt work if its not planed and thats the point...planing to gang ppl because the couldnt stand alone

for me np form ur group because u cant face the BL in a fair play

4S for example is hostile to all (only neutral to X) same syndicate
from time to time the stick togehter np but forming groups with navy doesnt have anything to do with RP
if they turn around in fight because the drone is on deconstruction it has his reasons and thats the game

otherthing is to play this game on personal feelings

we have SS from a group in the last days in it 4S,Marauder,Syndicate,ESF,Order and some freelancer (dacia i think)
i gave up the hope for 2 month as i left for some reasons that the fairplay would work on this server - noway
4S telling all the time they have a rule 2v1 they never used on ME (all BL for sure) it got worser because im BL
but as Marauder they have done the same  and than they feel strong, ganging on bases and admins happy on fest takeing his part -
not in admin char XD but this doesnt care
i have lost any respect for this guys the only admin who has my full trust and also are online are verminard and asmo

but its pointless to make here any threads
as i tryed to get the clans together it ended nowhere
so i dont care anymore

with some work from the admins ITS A PVP SERVER FFS it would have been done for ages
so an unwritten rule would be fights 1v1 max 2v1 and when one dies the next steps in ?!?! FAIRPLAY ?!?! ever heard this word
we need relaxed PVP lol some messages for the control could remember the ppl: its a game and appeal to fairplay would be one way
that was my itention also to open up to the clans to get a better community to say also TY for this mod and this server
it doenst worked
if the clans would do this work this would be a great gift to the server
the BLACK LEGION opend this

forcing groups for wipe outs - coward
hire member from BL to destroy the clan from inside - ridiculous
writting greenings about hoping BL die - will not happen

dont think we have to say here anything more...

[AlphaWolf]

I've avoided saying anything here because it only causes flames whenever anyone has a different point of view.

Zeus knows how I feel about this, I spoke at length with him in-game.  I do not want Black Legion clan to leave the server, nor am I knowingly or willingly party to that action.  The screenshot of the group says nothing at all about the situation nor the context.  I take my honour and integrity very seriously, be careful that you know all the facts of a situation before you comment on it and slander those involved.

A few points to consider.

Black Legion have done far more than 2v1 against me a number of times, as have many others; the only group I can think who have maintained any sense of fairplay or fair conduct have been Marauders to put it bluntly.

During the fight when the numbers got too high I stepped out of the fighting and openly announced the fact that I was doing so; I re-entered a couple of times when balance was restored and stepped back again as it tilted.  I've spent so much time working toward the benefit of this server, including offline development and tasks, and this is one of the few times I logged in to actually play the game again recently so yes, I wanted to fight but only within a fair context.

I was in the system originally when Black Legion demanded that everyone leave or die, placing themselves as target to all by their own hand and their own guns.  I fought back against that and found that I was joined by others.  Frankly I joined the group for two reasons, firstly because it makes sense to unite against a common enemy in the scenario they pit themselves against "everyone" and secondly, to differentiate targets more easily.

The fights that I did have were good and I appreciated that for the most part the situation was kept cool, I didn't need to lose the fun by changing to a staff character to put out any fires either.  I also gave kudos to Blade in private chat for using the RP channel and starting some form of RP.

I'll reserve any other comments for people who actually want to talk about what happened instead of ranting about something without a true understanding of the context and that applies to both sides.  If you do want to talk, feel free to PM me here or in-game either on my staff character or [DRF]-Lanren-[X].

I will note one final thing however.  Although I do not recall any comment about running Black Legion off the server in the group chat, I do see how Zeus and his clan believe this is happening to them.  There is the potential that this is exactly what is happening, or that the actions of certain individuals will lead in this direction.  I say this very clearly, if I find anyone actually attempting to force any player or clan off this server and can prove the case they will find themselves with a permanent ban which they can spend with any of their collaborators.

-Alpha

[BLAHA]

Deleted.

[Burn]

Deleted. By now, it ain't gonna solve anything anyway.