would like to join

[Chemosh]

First off, I love Firefly/Serenity and the REAVERS.  If at all possible I would love to join the ranks of the REAVERS, Silence is golden in all that exists.  I am willing to kill all which does and does not move, enemy to all and ruthless to the bone.  The only problem I have is that I am brand new to the VOID though I have a couple months of experience.  If you need me to scavenge to "acquire" a ship that is understandable.

Chemosh

P.S. Also may have some buddies that might want to Join the carnage after they make the switch to VOID.  also is ventrilo allowed?

[Maverick]

You have chosen a clan with a great but difficult RP. I think it's cool to see more REAVERS on. Best of luck in REAVERS m8!

[Burn]

A difficult RP? I beg to differ
What's so difficult about shooting each and everyone crossing your path?
If it was after me i think it would be best for this server if the REAVERS clan would be banned along with the [R] tag
Also in solidarity with the DTA clan each Reavers member should receive at least a 7 day ban (allthough they deserve much more in my oppinion) as their clan was a failed immitation of the one and true DTA clan.

[Maverick]

The shooting isn't the difficult part. This is nothing more than following the character of the server. The difficulty lies within coping with the flood of moans and maintaining strict radio silence with that. This requires a strict discipline. It is something a lot of us (including you and me) would be not able to do. Respect to the ones who can and again:

Have fun in the REAVERS m8!

[Zebulon]

Burn your starting to even sound like Xenon lol.  I wont repeat myself but go back and read the posts on the -=REAVERS=- forum  as to why the -=REAVERS=- came into existence...  A failed immitation? You mean an immitation that attempted to remain within the server rules and abide by some very difficult RP - HA! you couldnt do it if you tried and better players stuck with it for long enough for it to work when we were active.  I suggest that maybe we should ban clans that dont stick to their STATED RP.........lemme think who that might be...???  

Also - check as to why the DTA were banned and I dont think it was because of their RP.  It existed for sometime until they chose to rise to the bait when people complained - it got out of hand and they were banned for all the hasstle it caused and NOT because they were the best shooters on a shooter game.  Are -=REAVERS=- to be banned for trying to emulate and enhance the "fear factor" on VOID or are we all just to become boring red dot killers like you?

Check your facts mate before making such bold statments....Chemosh is a new player here and is to be encouraged to play - not discouraged from playing.  I expected better from you - seems your not as even handed as we thought.... :-w

[Chemosh]

so what steps would I have to take to get into the reavers?  I am working on some small trades and what not to obtain a ship, but still not sure if i am accepted or the steps needed to be accepted.  Also do I have to make a new char with the reavers tag or do i get that in game somehow?

any info would be greatly appreciated

also, is there a ship list or anywhere i can get some info on the ships available in the void?

thx in advance

Chemosh

[Zebulon]

Ok - Give me an idea as to what time you will be online and I can give you a hand with setting up your -=REAVERS=- character.  I have sent you a PM. Contact me by personal message and we can discuss this further....thanks - Zeb

[Magnum]

[quote="Zebulon";p="187630"] Burn your starting to even sound like Xenon lol.[/quote]

Sounds like Fact wisedom & Logic
Copy / Paste DTA - and first banned them  :-??
Go easy

XENON

[Ripper]

Sorry Zeb, but IMO Burn hit a nail on the head there.

If DTA never came along you wouldn't see a single rogue in space, everyone would be trading and I'd have way more cannon fodder to go around with. I'm not here to argue but hey, if it comes down to this my thoughts are exactly like Burns.

Plus there's a matter of a clan named XEF, that apparently isn't even worth mentioning anymore? In fact, we were the first to actually go by the pirate/rogue RP.

Reavers aren't a cheap imitation, but nonetheless they are an imitation of some sort.

[Zebulon]

I have NEVER said that they were not an immitation.  I STATED from the VERY START that because DTA were no longer here and PLAYERS (yes that means the rest of you) MOANED AND CRIED like spoilt kids that there was "no more fun on the VOID any more".  So I thought - I kinda liked the notariety that DTA had (shame about all the other cr@p that happend) and maybe - JUST maybe this VERY tough RP might just work here with a few tweeks - and guess what? My position as a VOID (and that was called into question by many and some very personal and unkind things were said to) DID help in trying to keep this wild creature of an RP tamed - Hence the rules laid down in the -=REAVERS=- code of conduct.  I got no problem with anyone disagreeing with me - but I wish they'd get their facts right first.

We met with some initial success and critics - "ban them - they are being untagged rogues" and all that rubbish.  Truth is that win or loose, when we got in a fight we rarely gave over  - heck thats what Respawn is for...!  

Ban -=REAVERS=-? What for?  And RIpper I NEVER claimed to be better than XEF or DTA or that I had the idea first.

Im locking this cos this has all been argued and discussed before without any point....

[Watchwolf]

I'm sorry, Zeb. And I hope this won't come between us. I want to keep this thread open a while.   I don't think it's fair to close a topic based on what may look like hearing things we might not want to hear. Whether or not that's any part of the case, it does present the appearance of conflict of interest. In the end, what's the difference.

We all know that Burn has a strong opinion about [R] tagged players, and so it probably carries over to DTA and the REAVERS, and I might add XEF as well. To a person who plays the Void his way, just about solely to take missions and kill NPCs, this type of PvP has absolutely no appeal. However, I'll say that flaming players who do choose to play it this way is unnecessary and uncalled for. I hope you can show restraint in that regard, my friend.

Xenon and his DKH clan are in their definition a Nomad clan and so if they were playing their RP as stated they'd be attacking every player that's not Nomad. They choose to play it differently. Not sure what the RP is actually, in reality. But that's how they play it. I won't be a critic. IMO, they and everyone else can play it however they want.

And so can I.

The legendary DTA clan rocked, in my opinion. I was possibly their last defender in the Void. I had to admit, in the end, that their reactions to the massive negative attitude to their style of play is what got them in trouble. I won't criticize their personalities in individually, but as a group they had some fault in the matter as well. Bummer, that. I liked what they stood for in as much as being the most ruthless bunch I have seen.

Sorry, but XEF was before my time. I'd probably have liked them too. I know my association with Ent and Const was fun, and when they invited me to BBD I was happy. You'll remember BBD-Rabid. Good name for a bulldog, eh?

Just as I enjoyed flying with the DTA as well. DTA-Malice. I became friends with Venom and the rest. We had a bit of falling out toward the end but I hope that's passed by now. It probably had a lot to do with my [VOID] status. There's that conflict of interest again.

I have played probably every RP available here. Why? Because I like to play the game and variety makes it more fun for me. I haven't seen anyone say they don't like me for that or for any of the Roles I've played. So I don't expect to see scorn for my -=REAVERS=- involvement either.

However,  I am beginning to believe that there's some level of conflict of interest with being a Server Guard and playing anything but a strictly good guy. Seems being a an unlawful character doesn't match well with being one who's supposed to uphold the law on the server. Some have a hard time seeing the difference between the RP and the role on the Staff.  In fact, I am pretty much on the verge of resigning my [VOID] position in order to be free to play the game in whatever role I choose. I was a player first.

But I digress. This thread is about the -=REAVERS=- Mob and their seeming lack of acceptance. Well maybe that's not all together true. Burn's disapproval does not represent the opinion of all or any of the rest of the players. He can only speak for himself. I may not like his stance but I must tolerate it or I'd be a hypocrite.

As I said before, -=REAVERS=- is not intended to be an imitation of DTA. Except in that we play an RP that's very similar to theirs. I suppose that's splitting hairs, so OK I guess I'll have to accept that. So? Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. It shouldn't offend any DTA member that others wish to emulate their RP. Neither should it offend other players in the Void if we do. If it were me, I'd think it was sort of funny.

And neither should it offend anyone if any other player plays the game however they choose. Freedom to play the Void in any of a wide variety of ways is what makes the Void so attractive, in part, and I believe it's what the Staff wants for the players. It's been said many times that this is a server for everyone in whatever way it's played. I for one will take that at its word.

So yes, Chemosh. You're certainly welcome into the -=REAVERS=- mob. Glad to have you. I hope others will brave the storm and join up as well. The way I see it, one of the best things DTA did for the server was to bring players together. Having a common enemy did that. I suppose -=REAVERS=- is an imitation in that regard as well. I hope we become the common enemy that brings everyone else together against us... IN GAME... and produces some of the great battles we all say we miss. Because in fact that's good for the server.

I'm for keeping this open a while. Let it be discussed, the merits of playing this sort of RP. I know there's disagreement. I expect it t remain constructive, or at least to not go down in flames, so to speak. I'd like to think we're better than that. Hope I won't be proven wrong.

[Burn]

Maybe we better ban Dacia while we are at it because they behaved like rogues when they blockaded Omicron Alpha?

I don't know why my name is always put together with the Dacia clan?I used to be a member of the Dacia but that's all history now as i deleted my clan-character to focus on my main preocupation here (killing npc's) wich might sound boring to you. (as you have mentioned)
So i have no idea what's going on in their clan but if you think something is wrong feel free to do whatever necessary to bring things back into order.

best we ban Eclipse to then

The Eclipse is an old clan on the Void and sadly not very active.They,however played their RP exactly how it's ment to be played,meaning that each member had a Nomad reputation wich made them hostile to most factions and players of the Void and each time you would cross paths with one of their members he will appear red (hostile) to you.
Something that cannot be said about the DTA or Reavers (Rogue RP/evil clan) i don't think that each Reavers member needs to have a Rogue/criminal friendly reputaion wich will spoil thier fun as they won't be able to dock on many locations of this server.
The DTA for example launched their atacks from a Navy base 25 k away from the Gates (Rogues docking on Navy bases and launching atacks from there now that's the RP the Void needs isn't it? =D> ) I have also read about a Rogue grouped up with a Navy and gang-banged a Trader in a act of Vendetta.(RP at it's best isn't it?)
If a clan chooses to be evil (like the Reavers,Beavers or whatever you are calling yourself these days) they should be forces (as a clan) to have an evil reputation aswell.Blazin_uk's idea was brillaint:There is no need for a tag it's all about the reputation and if you choose to RP you should be forced to have a reputation accordantly to your RP (good or evil) and of course you'll have to act acordantly meaning not to group up as a criminal with a navy to gang someone else.

and Black Legion..(ah thats right they had the sense to put an X tag on - even though most of them behave like rogues.....I have NEVER in my other characters EVER been asked for Tax by Black Legion - all I get is "Chaos Rules" - not rogues? hmmm.....

This sounds like a bannable offence to me. [X] tagged players are suppose to ask for tax first and only when not being payed they should open fire.
The Void may not be a RP server but Rogues being able to dock on Navy bases,Criminals grouping up with Navy to gangrape thier "common" victims and Pirates not asking for tax (just a few examples probably many more to mention) is not going to lead to anything good in my opinion.
So if you guys want to be an evil clan it's fine with me as long as you stick to your clan game play (evil) and create a hostile reputation for each member.
All these "evil" clans DTA,Eclipse,666,EU, etc etc and even you the "mighty" Reavers are eather dead or close to a wipe out.
Funny isn't it?This shows again that good will always prevail over evil just like in the written fables.And a good example for this would be the good clans of the Void (n*o who just celebrated their 4 th year on the Void,4S-Squad military clan if i'm not mistaken and the Dacia ,hunters of all criminals and law-breakers of the Void)
To conclude:i would like to see Blazin's idea brought into place on the Void.(for clans and single players alike who wish to RP on this server)

[[BLK_LGN][X]Zeus]

[quote="Burn_Baby_Burn";p="187752"]

and Black Legion..(ah thats right they had the sense to put an X tag on - even though most of them behave like rogues.....I have NEVER in my other characters EVER been asked for Tax by Black Legion - all I get is "Chaos Rules" - not rogues? hmmm.....

This sounds like a bannable offence to me. [X] tagged players are suppose to ask for tax first and only when not being payed they should open fire.
The Void may not be a RP server but Rogues being able to dock on Navy bases,Criminals grouping up with Navy to gangrape thier "common" victims and Pirates not asking for tax (just a few examples probably many more to mention) is not going to lead to anything good in my opinion.
So if you guys want to be an evil clan it's fine with me as long as you stick to your clan game play (evil) and create a hostile reputation for each member.)[/quote]

If some people actually had the brainpower to NOT SEE SOMETHING THAT ISN'T THERE, you would see we are clearly NOT pirates.

Yes, I have an [X] on my forum name here, but I am the only BL who has the BL tag and an [X] on this forum, and it is from the past from when we WERE pirates.

Go research your arguments Burn, and don't decide to bring neutral people into it because your self-centred demands are falling on deaf ears.   >:P

[Burn]

The quote was taken from Zebulon's post. (it doesn't say "Zebulon wrote" as the thread it was taken from got locked)
You might want to do some research aswell before throwing accusations lol
It's not like i'm quoting myself and comment my own sayings (i still have enough brainpower left not to do so)

[[BLK_LGN][X]Zeus]

That's directed and you AND whoever that quote came from.